Hassan el Yashmid - Page 4

roger1 · June 26th, 2011, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Natalie

Hi Roger, Thanks. Re all his "names" would'nt it be good to know exactly who this artist really is ? It may a take awhile for me get around to the gallery/s, but I will of course let you (all) know fully, what I have managed to find out.

Hi Natalie, Yes it would be good to find out exactly who he was and that was the original intention of this thread. I've even found it impossible so far to find any biographical details of Arthur Dudley despite his very large number of known works - but I'll keep trying. Look forward to hearing from you again.

July 7th, 2011, 05:25 AM

Hi There,

I read all of the above reports about Hassan el Yashmid. I also have 2 painting of his here in South Africa. It look original to me because you can see the drawing lines. My 2 pictures are also framed in black. When I married my husband in 1995 the painting were in my mother-in-law's house. She told me that it came from her father-in-law that brought it at an auction in the 1920. Ever since I saw those paintings I loved them. So when my father-in-law died in 1995 my husband inhereted the paintings. I read on the internet they think Victor E Pickup are the same artist as Hassan el Yashmid. Do you also thick so?

roger1 · July 8th, 2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi There,

I read all of the above reports about Hassan el Yashmid. I also have 2 painting of his here in South Africa. It look original to me because you can see the drawing lines. My 2 pictures are also framed in black. When I married my husband in 1995 the painting were in my mother-in-law's house. She told me that it came from her father-in-law that brought it at an auction in the 1920. Ever since I saw those paintings I loved them. So when my father-in-law died in 1995 my husband inhereted the paintings. I read on the internet they think Victor E Pickup are the same artist as Hassan el Yashmid. Do you also thick so?

Hi, Great to hear that you have two originals. This is very exciting news. If you can see the original lines then it sounds like an original watercolour. Can you post photos of these as I would like to know which paintings they are.
Was the auction purchase in SA or elsewhere?
I have also seen the internet attribution to Victor E Pickup but I do not have any evidence supporting this. Also the connection to Arthur Dudley/Giovanni Barbaro is there but I am doubtful about this as the styles are dissimilar.
Hope to hear from you again.

Marti · August 27th, 2011, 01:45 AM

Hi Guys
I have found a Hassan el Yashmid painting. I am trying to help my elderly parents go through all their art. I found several pieces of art in their storage building. While doing research on these pieces, I happen to find this one hanging in a room they added on to their house thirty years ago. This painting is the one where the man is sitting under the two palm trees with the basket of oranges. I have read the post above and am confussed about the name. I have really enjoyed reading the post about this artist. Has any one found out the value of the two paintings?? Thank you for all the information. I have learned so much. I do relise this is a keeper. You wont see it on ebay. lol

roger1 · August 29th, 2011, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marti

Hi Guys
I have found a Hassan el Yashmid painting. I am trying to help my elderly parents go through all their art. I found several pieces of art in their storage building. While doing research on these pieces, I happen to find this one hanging in a room they added on to their house thirty years ago. This painting is the one where the man is sitting under the two palm trees with the basket of oranges. I have read the post above and am confussed about the name. I have really enjoyed reading the post about this artist. Has any one found out the value of the two paintings?? Thank you for all the information. I have learned so much. I do relise this is a keeper. You wont see it on ebay. lol

Hi Marti, Is this an original watercolour painting? Is it in a frame or on a board etc?

Denny · December 2nd, 2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by roger1

Does anyone know of an artist Hassan el Yashmid or anything about him?
Several of his paintings, Arabian scene water colours, are available in prints. I guess he was active in the early 1900's.

Roger....not sure how this posting works......but.....I once owned the two paints you have. Contact me.

roger1 · December 3rd, 2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Roger....not sure how this posting works......but.....I once owned the two paints you have. Contact me.

Hi Denny, That's very interesting - which ones are you referring to? I'll be interested to hear about them. Just post the details in reply to this message.

roger1 · 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by roger1

Hi Denny, That's very interesting - which ones are you referring to? I'll be interested to hear about them. Just post the details in reply to this message.

Here is a copy of the emails relating to this story which is interesting :

Hi Denny,
I received your email address from John and did post a reply on the site for you but perhaps you haven't seen it yet.
Anyway, to save time, I've decided to contact you directly.
I'm very interested to hear that you owned the pictures originally. Which ones are you referring to? Please send me details and the story of how I ended up buying them in the UK? What is the history of them prior to this?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Roger.

Hey Roger.....good to hear from you. The two paintings are (one) man with gun overlooking water and (two) man with city in background.
I live in Colville, WA....that is 60 miles N of Spokane near Canada. In 1973 I had the opportunity to purchase the remains of an old auction house in Colville. The auctioneer/owner had passed away and another Colville person bought the contents originally and had an auction or two but quickly tired of it. I was a known "collector of stuff" at the time and he approached me about buying the remaining contents. I did and we had several garage sales to dispose of the contents. Some stuff I kept, of course, and these two water colors were among them. I new nothing about them other than they were old and in the original framing. I held on to them until 1990 when someone contacted me about old art work (I don't know now who I sold them to) but he was not local. He told me about foxing and other damage...we settled on $200.00 for the pair. I took a photo of them (as I do most things I sell) and when computers came out I tried to find out something about the artist. Never could find a thing until last week.... and this site comes up and I follow this stream of conversations about the artist. Imagine my surprise to later see your image of the paintings I sold 21 years ago. They are the same too....I can see the damage on the surface just like a fingerprint.
So that is my story....have no idea where they came from prior to 1973....or how they got to England.....but what an interesting story.
I often regretted selling them (a little bit) because I did not know what they were....and maybe they were worth millions? That is why every few years I would Google the artist again. Just goes to show you....everything shows up on the internet after a while. So how long have you hand them....and has the value gone up from $200.00? You have my permission to post this story if you wish.
DENNY BLAIR

Hi Denny,
Thanks very much for your very interesting story. It is amazing how something like two old paintings can move around from one owner to another. However, I have some bad news and some perhaps good news.
The bad news is that I do not own those two paintings - regrettably! The two paintings on my artconversation thread are owned by an art dealer in Seattle. I found them while trying to find more info on the artist. I contacted the dealer and had various discussions with her (as detailed in my threads) and was prepared to purchase them at the advertised price of about $125 each. During the discussions I mentioned that I suspected that Hassan el Yashmid was actually the British artist Arthur Dudley aka Giovanni Barbaro (although I am still not sure of this). I finally decided to purchase the paintings and sent emails to the dealer to finalise the transaction but to my surprise she never got back to me. A week or so later I returned to her website and was amazed to see that she had now updated the paintings to "attributed to Arthur Dudley aka Giovanni Barbaro" and increased the price to $375 each. She did not make any further contact with me.
The good news is that they are still on sale at that price if you wish to buy them back!
I presume you are basing your certain recognition of these on the foxing spots in the sky? The dealer in my discussions was not 100% certain that they were original watercolours or gouache.
At this time they are not framed so I presume that someone decided to remove the frames to better conserve them.
Do you still have the photos available of them in their original frames? I would like to see these if possible.
So that is my side of the story.
I am a collector of Arthur Dudley/Giovanni Barbaro paintings and am not sure of this connection apart from the similarity of the subjects as the style is not quite the same. There are so many el Yashmid prints around that it is strange that there are no biographical details of him anywhere. If you ever find out anything I would be very interested to hear from you.
Thanks again for your interesting story.
Look forward to hearing from you again.
Best wishes,
Roger.

Well......that is interesting Roger. I don't really want them back....just was unsure if I had sold a national treasure or not. I am attaching the photo of the paintings in original frames. I do remember a name being on the back....a wholesaler or framer....but don't recall what it was now. And yes....it's the foxing that provided the identity as you'll see. Feel free to share this information with the lady in Seattle or on the art site. I'll have to re read your entry....I did not pick up that they were in Seattle.

DENNY BLAIR

January 16th, 2012, 03:48 PM

Hi I have brought two prints of Hassanael Yashmid at a local yard sale here in Victoria Australia. My husband loved them and I was trying to find more about them when I came across this site. .The titles are 'The Beggar at the Gate' and 'The Return.' they are in different frames than the other have mentioned. but the prints are beautiful. and look old I will continue to watch this site to learn more as it is posted. thanks Carrie.

roger1 · January 17th, 2012, 01:56 AM

Hi Carrie,
Very interested to hear about your el Yashmid prints. They are both unknown to me (by the titles) and I would be very interested in seeing them. Could you please post photos on this site. Are the titles on name plates at the bottom of the frame or on the back?
Look forward to your reply.
Roger.

mary12 · January 24th, 2012, 05:42 AM

Hi, I found two watercolures of this artist when I was renovating my home in 1984 they had been in the my loft for many years as I has never seen them before and I have lived in this house since I was born in 1950, they look very old and I have tried to find out something about them before but this artiast seems to be unknown, I still have the painting in my loft but have not looked at then since 1984, they are in round eight sided frames like the shape of an old threepence bit, I would be instrested to learn about and if they are of any value.

Thanking you
Mary12

roger1 · January 25th, 2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mary12

Hi, I found two watercolures of this artist when I was renovating my home in 1984 they had been in the my loft for many years as I has never seen them before and I have lived in this house since I was born in 1950, they look very old and I have tried to find out something about them before but this artiast seems to be unknown, I still have the painting in my loft but have not looked at then since 1984, they are in round eight sided frames like the shape of an old threepence bit, I would be instrested to learn about and if they are of any value.

Thanking you
Mary12

Hi, Interesting frame shape. Initially would need to find out whether they are prints or original watercolours. Can you post photos or give more details of any writing on the back etc. Are they different scenes to the ones shown on this site?
Look forward to your reply.

carrielgale · January 26th, 2012, 03:34 AM

Hi Roger, have joined now, Yes the names are on the prints. The Return and The beggar at the gate.
thanks.I sent the photos to the email mentioned earlier in the forum because I was not able to load them. and asked John to add the photos. can't wait to hear more. Carrie

John · January 26th, 2012, 11:12 AM

Here they are...

carrielgale · January 26th, 2012, 02:43 PM

thankyou John. would love to know more about them. took the photos on my iphone, so not the best. The frames are just plain brown ones, old but nothing special. But the colours are alot brighter than in the photos, they are quite beautiful.Its hard to see the titles in these photos and also the name will take a photo and add them, Think I have worked out how to do that now. Carrie

roger1 · January 27th, 2012, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by carrielgale

thankyou John. would love to know more about them. took the photos on my iphone, so not the best. The frames are just plain brown ones, old but nothing special. But the colours are alot brighter than in the photos, they are quite beautiful.Its hard to see the titles in these photos and also the name will take a photo and add them, Think I have worked out how to do that now. Carrie

Hi Carrie, Thanks for the photos. They are excellent - completely new to me and very interesting as they have elements of other el Yashmid paintings in them. Will get back to you on this point later. You are sure they are prints and not original watercolours? Will be very interested to see the titles and Yashmid signature in close-up. Did the seller have any history of their origin?
Well done for finding them! (Was it in Victoria Market Melbourne?).
Roger.

roger1 · January 27th, 2012, 05:17 AM

Hi Carrie, Further to my previous post, the image in your post photo2.JPG looks very similar to this scene viewed from a different location :

roger1 · 05:03 AM

A pair of oval framed prints of Hassan el Yashmid prints is available in a mixed lot today at auction in Nottingham. Condition is not very good and prints somewhat faded.

April 30th, 2012, 10:06 AM

I have just put a jigsaw on ebay THE RETURN by Hassn

John · April 30th, 2012, 11:30 AM

I wasn't expecting much, but I took a look. That's quite an interesting vintage jigsaw puzzle. Looks handmade - the sides aren't even square!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HASSAN-EL-YA...-/310397468285

July 7th, 2011, 05:25 AM	#62
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Hassan el Yashmid Hi There, I read all of the above reports about Hassan el Yashmid. I also have 2 painting of his here in South Africa. It look original to me because you can see the drawing lines. My 2 pictures are also framed in black. When I married my husband in 1995 the painting were in my mother-in-law's house. She told me that it came from her father-in-law that brought it at an auction in the 1920. Ever since I saw those paintings I loved them. So when my father-in-law died in 1995 my husband inhereted the paintings. I read on the internet they think Victor E Pickup are the same artist as Hassan el Yashmid. Do you also thick so?

August 27th, 2011, 01:45 AM	#64
Marti Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1	Hassan el Yashmid Hi Guys I have found a Hassan el Yashmid painting. I am trying to help my elderly parents go through all their art. I found several pieces of art in their storage building. While doing research on these pieces, I happen to find this one hanging in a room they added on to their house thirty years ago. This painting is the one where the man is sitting under the two palm trees with the basket of oranges. I have read the post above and am confussed about the name. I have really enjoyed reading the post about this artist. Has any one found out the value of the two paintings?? Thank you for all the information. I have learned so much. I do relise this is a keeper. You wont see it on ebay. lol

January 16th, 2012, 03:48 PM	#69
Unregistered Posts: n/a	2 x hassanael Yashmid prints Hi I have brought two prints of Hassanael Yashmid at a local yard sale here in Victoria Australia. My husband loved them and I was trying to find more about them when I came across this site. .The titles are 'The Beggar at the Gate' and 'The Return.' they are in different frames than the other have mentioned. but the prints are beautiful. and look old I will continue to watch this site to learn more as it is posted. thanks Carrie.

January 24th, 2012, 05:42 AM	#71
mary12 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1	hassan el yashmid watercolours Hi, I found two watercolures of this artist when I was renovating my home in 1984 they had been in the my loft for many years as I has never seen them before and I have lived in this house since I was born in 1950, they look very old and I have tried to find out something about them before but this artiast seems to be unknown, I still have the painting in my loft but have not looked at then since 1984, they are in round eight sided frames like the shape of an old threepence bit, I would be instrested to learn about and if they are of any value. Thanking you Mary12

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January 17th, 2012, 01:56 AM	#70
roger1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Posts: 171	Hi Carrie, Very interested to hear about your el Yashmid prints. They are both unknown to me (by the titles) and I would be very interested in seeing them. Could you please post photos on this site. Are the titles on name plates at the bottom of the frame or on the back? Look forward to your reply. Roger.

January 26th, 2012, 03:34 AM	#73
carrielgale Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2	Hi Roger, have joined now, Yes the names are on the prints. The Return and The beggar at the gate. thanks.I sent the photos to the email mentioned earlier in the forum because I was not able to load them. and asked John to add the photos. can't wait to hear more. Carrie

January 26th, 2012, 02:43 PM	#75
carrielgale Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2	thankyou John. would love to know more about them. took the photos on my iphone, so not the best. The frames are just plain brown ones, old but nothing special. But the colours are alot brighter than in the photos, they are quite beautiful.Its hard to see the titles in these photos and also the name will take a photo and add them, Think I have worked out how to do that now. Carrie

April 30th, 2012, 10:06 AM	#79
Unregistered Posts: n/a	I have just put a jigsaw on ebay THE RETURN by Hassn

April 30th, 2012, 11:30 AM	#80
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,400	I wasn't expecting much, but I took a look. That's quite an interesting vintage jigsaw puzzle. Looks handmade - the sides aren't even square! http://www.ebay.com/itm/HASSAN-EL-YA...-/310397468285