Orfeo

Hi,

I'm a french student in History of Art at La Sorbonne, and also a member of a website where I animate forum and write articles, called Artelio: http://www.artelio.org/
On this virtual magazine, we speak about culture in a large sense, including art under the name "expositions". We propose article not really made by specialists, but rather by passionate peoples, including a lot of exhibtion critics.
So, let enjoy it and have a good reading!

Orfeo

P-S: sorry if my language is far from being good, but I've not so much english lessons at university...

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I am a secondary school student lived in HK . I think the exposition about picasso listed in the website that Orfeo provided is quite interesting .

(I will be very sorry for my very poor english but I think Orfeo's language is better than mine)

Orfeo

Thanks a lot!...hum, what does mean HK?
I'll try nearly to talk what I prefer, i. e. venetian art of 16th century, because there'll be a lot of exhibitions in France about it.

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HK means Hong Kong , it is a small part of China .

And also I am interested in the 20th century aritist Pablo Picasso . I think his work produced in 1917-1926(it means Neoclassicnism) and his classical prints are the best of his masterpieces.

Do you think he is good and which artist(s) you perfer ?

Orfeo

I knew Honk Kong but I ignored we can say HK...
Well, I've a certain admiration for picasso's work, and I'm fascinated by cubism, his origins, means and mains. However, there's some less good periods in Picasso, like for many great artits; but his place in Art remains very interesting. For me, the best creative time was from 1907 to 1914, cubism's genesis, a real epic adventure...

About artists I prefer, my passion is Renaissance, especially venetian painters. But I can also enjoy Rembrandt, Pollock, Rodin, Bacon, Rubens, Ingres, Puget, Velazquez,....

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Oh ! I think cubism painting are very difficult to understand or very difficult to know what he is painting about but Picasso was very famous and even some people said he is a God .

Michelangelo ,Rodin , Rubens and Ingres are good at nude human forms especially Michelangelo has a passion on this and that's why I like their works with nude human figure .

Actually Pollock and Picasso's work are similar to some drawings produces by kids.

When I read newspaper , some children or even teenagers who can draw very well , the editor will say that they have "picasso style".Is it strange ?

Orfeo

It's an erro to say Picasso or Pollock works were mere fantaisy, similar to children paintings...Indeed, Picasso was really a master's drawing (he directly entered the second year in Fine Arts School), and cubism result from an intellectual view of Art like could have some masters of Renaissance: then, human beings really look like those created by Michelangelo? I don't think so, and Picasso art is a bit a new definition of human in art.
About Pollock, I said he got a very high degre in colored abstraction and oftenly on painting's object: for me, subject in key Pollock works is painting itself (like in some Monet paintins, elsewhere); there's nothing else, maybe, to understand if just the act of making on an achieved painting: a movement, very intelectual as material, we can find from Titian's last manner, "magic impressionism", where formes are dissolved in tonal vibrations creating a georgous complex of stains: not already dripping or action painting, of course, but beggining of the emphasis of creation on finished painting in western art.

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Mm...Do you think Picasso is an impressionists ? I always found such like this news in newspaper ! Is it terrible ?

Orfeo

Hum...Let's be very prudent with such categories, who work like very dangerous box, empty of sense and pertinence! So, we can't say Picasso was an impresionnist, and for several raisons:
-Historicly, impressionism borns in 1874 for continuig in the 1880's, transforming into neo-impressionism with Seurat and others. Picasso was born in 1881 and, if his first works treating about parisian popular or nightly life can recall Van Gogh or Toulouse-Lautrec, his whole work from 1904 is very different from impressionism.
-Moreover, Picasso's style is very different from impressionism, dealing more with graphism and giving of forms into space, meanwhile impressionism is found on perception of colors into light and atmosphere with a great work on painting itself, less drawn. In the same idea, Picasso's themes are very different from landscape, very appreciated by some impressionists (Sisley, Pissarro and of course Monet for the most known): Picasso treats about still life and mostly human themes, but very different from the impressionism vision.
-And finally but merely, Picasso had never claim himself to be an impressionist artist!

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I think the information are very useful . Thank you very much !

Mmm....do you like drawing or take part in any activities related to art ?

Orfeo

I enjoy many arts, including drawing. Infortunately, I've no artistic activity, because I don't think having any potential giving. But maybe I'll try to take some drawings lessons: even if I don't become a new Michelangelo, I could more understand Art and its means.

Moreover, on the website Artelio, I'm getting to write an article about an exhibition of some modern masterpieces from the Phillips Collection, shown in Paris. Maybe I could published it ending january or beginning february.

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Do you think New York or Paris is the city of art ?

From the past , Paris was as known as the city of art . I think maybe there are a number of artists came from the capital of France .

But New York is the city of modern art because of the Museum of Modern Art(MoMA) It has the most powerful masterpece-- Les Demoiselles d'Avignon by Picasso

Which one do you think is the correct answer ?

I hope you can give your comments . Thank you .

Orfeo

Indeed Paris was the city of Art from the 19th century (instead of Rome in Modern Times), until the period between the two world wars. But from the end of the 40', United States are really the main place of avant-garde, especially school of New York with abstract expressionism.
The fact, also, is due to Art market, linked with contemporary creation: I think New York is the finest place for it, while Paris is very under. So, creators need some people to buy their works, and I think there's a real relation...

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I have heard that America has the biggest collection of Picasso's work but not in Paris or Spain (they are Picasso's living place and his homeland )

So I think it is very impossible . Maybe America is the good market for modern art . Andy Warhol is an American pop artist .

Ah ... do you think your schoolmates have a passion on art because I want to know the culture in your homeland .

Orfeo

America art's works in museum are very numerous, and often more it can be presumed! Maybe United States have the biggest Picasso's collection, because works of this artist begun very soon to be sold on art market...

About my classmates, I must say I don't know so much! I don't know if they have really an art passion: sometimes, it can happen they take me for a mad guy 'cause I really have an art passion!

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I know it but what is the meaning of "take somebody for a mad guy" ?

Orfeo

I mean some think I shouldn't work so much, and not being so involved in art studies.

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I think you are a hard-working stuudent .

Orfeo

Thanks...I only do my best: not so easy!

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Why it is not so easy ?