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Old October 18th, 2011, 04:14 PM   #1
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Default painting identification

So yeah, I'd like to know if someones can recognize this composition.
The painting is oil, Chiaroscuro style(clair-obscur), Religious scene (?)
It depicts women viewed by her left side, handing something to a man(in the real picture, It is not a priest), with in the backgroud two person in the dark.
then in the frontground, you have a little boy(girl) with his/her hand in his vest

I've tried to do a ''sketch'' so you can a a ''clearer picture''
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Old October 19th, 2011, 12:20 AM   #2
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Something like this one?
http://www.catholicradiodramas.com/w...HEDONI1611.jpg
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Old October 19th, 2011, 07:12 AM   #3
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im very impressed!
that is exactly the one I was looking for!
now, I know that the original is in italy. I have to know who could have done this copy...Do we know if he had students?
thanks!
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Old October 19th, 2011, 08:56 AM   #4
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Default Bartolomeo Schedoni, The Charity, 1611

The painting is by Bartolomeo Schedoni, 1611 - The Charity. It resides at the Museo Nazionale di Capodimonte in Naples.

Schedoni trained with Federico Zuccaro (Rome). He worked for the Duke of Parma, and the Farnese, and also for one of the d'Este (not Isabella).

here's a link to schedoni info on ARTCYCLOPEDIA
http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/schedoni_bartolomeo.html

Bonhams Knightsbridge had a work in their April 2011 auction identified as being "After Schedoni"

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/WService=wslive_pub/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=eur&MJ=8190c3f2be8a9003d58 8855db455b13e&sContinent=EUR&screen=WholeCatalogue Print&iSaleNo=18674
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Old October 19th, 2011, 04:34 PM   #5
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cant get the link, can you tell me whats when in april?
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Old October 19th, 2011, 08:44 PM   #6
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Default Schedoni

Hi artcollector1,
I was just responding to the part of your question that asks if Schedoni had students (apparently he did).

I don't know the names of students, but I was trying to suggest that if you go to the Bonham's website www.bonhams.com and search for: Sale 18674 - Old Master PaintingsLondon, Knightsbridge, 13:00 13 Apr 2011, you'll find that item #38 is a painting "after schedoni":

After Bartolomeo Schedoni, 17th Century
The Madonna and Child
oil on panel
33.4 x 25.5cm (13 1/8 x 10 1/16in).
£700 to 1,000, €810 to 1,200

I also noticed that the Fizwilliam Museum has work listed as "circle of Bartolomeo Schedoni"

Hope that helps.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 10:58 PM   #7
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BTW ARTalker, you can make a link (or any text) clickable by highlighting it and clicking on the "link" icon, which looks like a piece of chain link.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 07:19 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John
BTW ARTalker, you can make a link (or any text) clickable by highlighting it and clicking on the "link" icon, which looks like a piece of chain link.
OH! Thanks John.
I'll try that next time.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 04:31 PM   #9
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I still cant belive you found this painting with my collage!
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Old October 28th, 2011, 04:37 PM   #10
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so yeah, this is a big question, asked many time on this forum
How to date a painting?
Now I know that the painting I have is a copy of Bartolomeo Schedoni masterpiece. Now, how can I know when this copy was made? How can I know if it is ''in the circle of'', or ''After'' or made by this guy no one ever heard of ect.?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 06:44 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by artcollector1
I still cant belive you found this painting with my collage!

Pretty amazing aye?? Blows my mind!!
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