oiol on board paris scene "P. RENARD PARIS 61

rchas · 11:45 AM

the piece of art in question is an oil on board app.21 x 17 paris street scene of a woman with a child in the forefront walking up a building lined street made of what appears to be cobblestone.the sig. is in the lower right all caps P. RENARD under says PARIS 61.do i have any known artist all I've found is similarities. the sig is odd being all caps but anyone could have painted / signed it this way. help is needed

Eirene · 04:29 AM

Paul Renard? Not positive but most of his signatures look to be signed P. Renard...not all in capitals.

Example of his work - much more at google image search.

Auction results - http://www.findartinfo.com/search/li...?keyword=11302

Edit: Started thinking about the date... you're sure it says '61? Paul Renard was born in 1871 and died in 1920. Copy artist perhaps?

mp.kunst · October 28th, 2011, 05:14 AM

Wouldn’t surprise me if this painting is made in China.

A photo would help to be sure of this assertion.

saintmarc · October 28th, 2011, 12:40 PM

I can't find this Renard.

Eirene · October 28th, 2011, 06:37 PM

Thanks for posting the pic's. I see that there are two Paul Renard's, the other one born in 1941 died in 1997. Not the same style either. Reminds me a little of some of Uttrilo's work. http://www.ablevypb.com/item--Paul-R...ene--3144.html

rchas · October 29th, 2011, 01:39 PM

the pics aren't high detail enough but the" p."in the sig. isnt all the way closed as it might be the letter "F" if i had to guess.does that option offer any insight into who the artist might be if at all!

John · October 29th, 2011, 05:45 PM

I'm craning my head around the monitor, and depending on the angle it looks like a "P", a "F", or an "E". In any case it doesn't appear to be the Paul Renard discussed here.

rchas · October 31st, 2011, 04:14 PM

barring any unforseen revalations in authenticating the artist i feel as though
this may be forgery or as one comment went "chinese" not having any provenance maybe a copy of some sort .the post'll stay up and who knows in the future, maybe ?
thanks all for the help
r chas

Eirene · November 1st, 2011, 11:55 PM

I'm not sure that this should be dismissed as a Chinese copy. mp.kunst mentioned that before the photo's were posted. Renard is a popular French name I believe, if it was someone trying to pass of a Paul Renard as in the 1871 version they would not have attached the date '61. Don't believe I have ever seen dates on the factory paintings. Looks to me to be of much better quality. There is a simplicity to it. What do your friends think of it??

I like it!!

John · November 2nd, 2011, 12:22 AM

It reminds me of Utrillo as well. He's not really my cup of tea, but a lot of people do like his work.

November 4th, 2011, 01:06 PM

i have a painting of his im not sure where the scene was painted at

Eirene · November 5th, 2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by redsuewillow

i have a painting of his im not sure where the scene was painted at

France?? Is the signature all in capitals? Can you upload a photo?

rchas · November 14th, 2011, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

It reminds me of Utrillo as well. He's not really my cup of tea, but a lot of people do like his work.

the most copied french artist "utrillo".i have a 24"x 18" print on canvas,bought at an estate sale ,heard they we're given away with enough tokens after buying soap.cool print though!the last jpeg is a shot of the printed title on the canvas edge of the title "eglise de strins".varnished the print and everything .reproduction in spades, the frame is decent
rchas

December 7th, 2011, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eirene

France?? Is the signature all in capitals? Can you upload a photo?

i can put part of it that i scanned because my cam and camera is not working for some reason.where do i upload part of the picture

redsuewillow · December 7th, 2011, 12:32 AM

i will have to email it to u i have the whole picture but only scanned where the name is

John · December 7th, 2011, 01:10 AM

Just click "Post reply" below left and use the paperclip icon to upload an attachment. There is an upload limit of about 500K.

redsuewillow · 12:20 AM

to figure it out but this is only why i could do i

John · December 7th, 2011, 03:32 PM

I can't provide any more info on that painting, but I found yet another one by the same artist. Like the first one in the thread, it is signed "P RENARD PARIS 61".

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9324335

October 28th, 2011, 04:03 AM	#2
Eirene Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 624	Paul Renard? Not positive but most of his signatures look to be signed P. Renard...not all in capitals. Example of his work - much more at google image search. Auction results - http://www.findartinfo.com/search/li...?keyword=11302 Edit: Started thinking about the date... you're sure it says '61? Paul Renard was born in 1871 and died in 1920. Copy artist perhaps? Last edited by Eirene : October 28th, 2011 at 04:29 AM.

October 31st, 2011, 04:14 PM	#8
rchas Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 5	renard barring any unforseen revalations in authenticating the artist i feel as though this may be forgery or as one comment went "chinese" not having any provenance maybe a copy of some sort .the post'll stay up and who knows in the future, maybe ? thanks all for the help r chas

November 4th, 2011, 01:06 PM	#11
redsuewillow Posts: n/a	P.Renard i have a painting of his im not sure where the scene was painted at

December 7th, 2011, 02:51 PM	#17
redsuewillow Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2	to figure it out but this is only why i could do i Last edited by redsuewillow : January 8th, 2012 at 12:20 AM.

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October 28th, 2011, 05:14 AM	#3
mp.kunst Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 95	Wouldn’t surprise me if this painting is made in China. A photo would help to be sure of this assertion.

October 28th, 2011, 12:40 PM	#4
saintmarc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 345	I can't find this Renard.

October 28th, 2011, 06:37 PM	#5
Eirene Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 624	Thanks for posting the pic's. I see that there are two Paul Renard's, the other one born in 1941 died in 1997. Not the same style either. Reminds me a little of some of Uttrilo's work. http://www.ablevypb.com/item--Paul-R...ene--3144.html

October 29th, 2011, 05:45 PM	#7
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,400	I'm craning my head around the monitor, and depending on the angle it looks like a "P", a "F", or an "E". In any case it doesn't appear to be the Paul Renard discussed here.

November 1st, 2011, 11:55 PM	#9
Eirene Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 624	I'm not sure that this should be dismissed as a Chinese copy. mp.kunst mentioned that before the photo's were posted. Renard is a popular French name I believe, if it was someone trying to pass of a Paul Renard as in the 1871 version they would not have attached the date '61. Don't believe I have ever seen dates on the factory paintings. Looks to me to be of much better quality. There is a simplicity to it. What do your friends think of it?? I like it!!

November 2nd, 2011, 12:22 AM	#10
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,400	It reminds me of Utrillo as well. He's not really my cup of tea, but a lot of people do like his work.

December 7th, 2011, 12:32 AM	#15
redsuewillow Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2	i will have to email it to u i have the whole picture but only scanned where the name is

December 7th, 2011, 01:10 AM	#16
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,400	Just click "Post reply" below left and use the paperclip icon to upload an attachment. There is an upload limit of about 500K.

December 7th, 2011, 03:32 PM	#18
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,400	I can't provide any more info on that painting, but I found yet another one by the same artist. Like the first one in the thread, it is signed "P RENARD PARIS 61". http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9324335