Inherited Art

Nebula · April 19th, 2009, 11:11 AM

Hi,

New user here.

I have a piece of art I inherited from my uncle in Toronto, Canada (He lived in an old house that dated back to the 18th century). I'm sure its not anything but it is a Jamaican scene, oil on canvas, dated '68 and signed either Joan Payne or Joan Paryne. On the back is a sticker of the framers, Robert Hubbard and Son Ltd. Is this anything other than sentimental value?

I also have got a real old piece, oil on wood that is in pretty bad shape. There was one of those Antique Roadshow things that came into town and they said it was pretty much a personal portrait on a generic body, worth maybe $500 but pretty much sentimental. Do you agree?

I have attached a picture of each.

Nebula · July 24th, 2009, 06:16 PM

Hmm. Guess no one can help?

John · July 27th, 2009, 01:43 AM

Sorry, don't know anything about that artist.

July 27th, 2009, 03:51 PM

Looking at the signature on the West Indian painting I wonder if the name might be "Ivan Payne" ? There was an artist from Barbados of this name. See http://www.iadb.org/EXR/cultural/cat.../reartists.htm for biography and an example of his work.

July 27th, 2009, 04:07 PM

Just had another look around and theres a painting by Ivan Payne in this PDF catalogue http://www.nagc.bb/SiteAssets/InTheMiddleOfTheOcean.pdf in which his signature can be seen clearly. Like the one on your picture it could be easily misread as Joan. Clearly an artist much respected on his home island, and of much more than merely sentimental interest.

July 27th, 2009, 07:12 PM

The second painting is not uninteresting. The position of the hand and some other details evoke the portrait of Marguerite de Lorraine by Van Dyck.
http://www.ville-blois.fr/servicesbi...l_darneaux.jpg
But it is impossible to have a good sight from this point of view

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July 24th, 2009, 06:16 PM	#2
Nebula Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2	Hmm. Guess no one can help?

July 27th, 2009, 01:43 AM	#3
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	Sorry, don't know anything about that artist.

July 27th, 2009, 03:51 PM	#4
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Looking at the signature on the West Indian painting I wonder if the name might be "Ivan Payne" ? There was an artist from Barbados of this name. See http://www.iadb.org/EXR/cultural/cat.../reartists.htm for biography and an example of his work.

July 27th, 2009, 04:07 PM	#5
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Just had another look around and theres a painting by Ivan Payne in this PDF catalogue http://www.nagc.bb/SiteAssets/InTheMiddleOfTheOcean.pdf in which his signature can be seen clearly. Like the one on your picture it could be easily misread as Joan. Clearly an artist much respected on his home island, and of much more than merely sentimental interest.

July 27th, 2009, 07:12 PM	#6
Unregistered Posts: n/a	The second painting is not uninteresting. The position of the hand and some other details evoke the portrait of Marguerite de Lorraine by Van Dyck. http://www.ville-blois.fr/servicesbi...l_darneaux.jpg But it is impossible to have a good sight from this point of view