Help Identify Painting "War Scene - Horses/Soldiers/Fire

Mary · June 17th, 2009, 01:57 PM

Any help appreciated. Painted on 18" x 24" canvas, stretched over wooden frame. There is a name/signature on the bottom left of the painting (hidden in the detail of the red tapestry. It is in black and reads "MONDROI(L) MONBOI(L). It was purchased in Amherstburg Ontario - previously "Fort Malden".

Thanks Mary

John · June 18th, 2009, 01:32 AM

Findartinfo.com has an artist name search function that can accept wildcards and partial names. That might be worth playing with.

John · June 18th, 2009, 01:39 AM

P.S. I checked the Getty Museum's large ULAN database... The only name that seems remotely close is "Mondieu", for example as in Jean Gaspard Etienne Mondieu (French genre painter, born 1872).

Mary · June 18th, 2009, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

P.S. I checked the Getty Museum's large ULAN database... The only name that seems remotely close is "Mondieu", for example as in Jean Gaspard Etienne Mondieu (French genre painter, born 1872).

Thanks for the info and the leads John. I am so pleased I found you. I hope someone can identify the uniform, which would give a new research point. Mary

Mary · June 19th, 2009, 08:05 PM

Here is the same scene as the original I have, with a few differences in the painting. Found this today at Dargate Auction House ..... Description: "1098 DEAD SOLDIERS AND HORSES OIL. Done on lightweight canvas adhered to plywood. Signed Edouard Detali 1899. Comes from a Pittsburgh home where it was displayed in situ."

http://www.dargate.com/220_auction/2...es/220comp.htm

I wonder if the name on the saddle blanket that I have "Monobol" could be the name of the soldier?

Where do I go from here? Thanks for any other help out there. ..... Mary, Ontario Canada

John · June 21st, 2009, 10:23 AM

"Edouard Detali" must certainly be "Edouard Detaille". If you Google him you'll see many military scenes of this type. Maybe both paintings are copies of the same famous Detaille painting, although if so I didn't find it yet.

saintmarc · June 25th, 2009, 05:57 PM

Then, the word "mondroi" could be a part of the french motto of the british monarch : Dieu et mon droit

Mary · June 26th, 2009, 09:46 PM

Thank you Mark for your help. Something exciting for me to research. What you say makes sense. I'll get out the magnifying glass and take a closer look at the signature on the horse blanket or saddle blanket. Mary

June 19th, 2009, 08:05 PM	#5
Mary Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 7	Edouard Detali 1899 ?? Here is the same scene as the original I have, with a few differences in the painting. Found this today at Dargate Auction House ..... Description: "1098 DEAD SOLDIERS AND HORSES OIL. Done on lightweight canvas adhered to plywood. Signed Edouard Detali 1899. Comes from a Pittsburgh home where it was displayed in situ." http://www.dargate.com/220_auction/2...es/220comp.htm I wonder if the name on the saddle blanket that I have "Monobol" could be the name of the soldier? Where do I go from here? Thanks for any other help out there. ..... Mary, Ontario Canada

June 26th, 2009, 09:46 PM	#8
Mary Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 7	Thanks Mark Thank you Mark for your help. Something exciting for me to research. What you say makes sense. I'll get out the magnifying glass and take a closer look at the signature on the horse blanket or saddle blanket. Mary

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June 18th, 2009, 01:32 AM	#2
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	Findartinfo.com has an artist name search function that can accept wildcards and partial names. That might be worth playing with.

June 18th, 2009, 01:39 AM	#3
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	P.S. I checked the Getty Museum's large ULAN database... The only name that seems remotely close is "Mondieu", for example as in Jean Gaspard Etienne Mondieu (French genre painter, born 1872).

June 21st, 2009, 10:23 AM	#6
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	"Edouard Detali" must certainly be "Edouard Detaille". If you Google him you'll see many military scenes of this type. Maybe both paintings are copies of the same famous Detaille painting, although if so I didn't find it yet.

June 25th, 2009, 05:57 PM	#7
saintmarc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 345	Then, the word "mondroi" could be a part of the french motto of the british monarch : Dieu et mon droit