H. Tirolf - Page 2

devareem · July 16th, 2010, 08:36 AM

I have done some investigation on the artist, H. Tirolf. The paintings that are being sold on ebay are from the United States and United Kingdom/England. There was also a painting by H. Tirolf in Australia that was listed a while back. The signature on each painting seems to be exactly the same, with same style of painting. I believe the two artists that are being confused are Haim or Heim Tirolf and Hans Tirol.

The signatures on each of the paintings seem to be uniquely underlined with a large capital F that flows beneath the line.

I would like to learn more about H. Tirolf's biography. Does anyone know where he came from in Amsterdam, an exact location? Where did he study in Switzerland and where was his work exhibited in Europe? Who was his father?

These paintings are in England and Austrailia, I believe they are real and by H. Tirolf.

Looking forward to hearing from you. Dev

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Yes there two triolf's apparently the one you mention in the late 1900's-early 20th century was the father of the recent h tirolf. H Tirolf comes from Amsterdam where his father was a famous portrait and landscape artist. H tirolf studied in Basel Switzerland and exhitbited in Europe. I have had it said to me that this H Tirolf that people are trying to find out about is only a street artist. I am not sure I believe that. I have one of his paintings and it is surely very well done. The confusing thing I find is that when there is a picture of his to be seen it is from the same area only at different angles leading to suggest that perhaps he is only a street painter. I have bought the one sold in USA on ebay. It will be interesting to see the two pictures together. I am sceptical about the painting sold be jamescaper. The name itself cunjures up so must mistrust to be believable. This artist was supposed to have been born in 1933 so theorectically he could still be alive. If he is I wish he would come forward and let people know if he is only a street painter or a serious artist.

devareem · July 16th, 2010, 08:44 AM

Do you know which gallery your painting was purchased from? Is your painting registered or does it have something on the back with information about the gallery it was purchased from?

Can you post a picture of the painting and a picture of the signature on the painting? I would be quite interested to see if it is the same as the painting in Australia and the UK.

Thanks, Dev

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Our family also have a large beautiful landscape of the Four Seasons painted by the same artist...purchased by my father years and years ago ( 1960s?)at an art fair in Christchurch..dont know if that helps or not

November 2nd, 2010, 02:52 PM

There is/was a real person named Tirolf who, along with two other artists, that were from the Netherlands, who were having painting parties in the homes of Americans in the Brussels in the early 1970s. We had one of their parties at our home in 1972 and purchased some paintings from them. Tirolf personally autographed his painting for me and we still have it. It is beautiful. I just today visited my doctor and hanging on the wall in the foyer of his office was a painting that I immediately recognized as having been done by the Tirolf that was in our home, and the signature was the same. All three artists were Dutch painters. The painting that the doctor had was valued for more than $6400.00 on Google. I have no idea as to what the one we have is valued at.

Lester C · November 2nd, 2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by devareem

Do you know which gallery your painting was purchased from? Is your painting registered or does it have something on the back with information about the gallery it was purchased from?

Can you post a picture of the painting and a picture of the signature on the painting? I would be quite interested to see if it is the same as the painting in Australia and the UK.

Thanks, Dev

Devareem........When I was stationed at NATO Headquarters in Brussels from 1970 thru 1974 there were four Dutch painters who would have house partys for the purpose of getting their paintings circulated into the U.S. One of the persons claimed to be H. Tirolf, another was named Ryke, and I cannot recall who the other one was. I purchased two of Tirolfs paintings and four other paintings from the other men. Tirolf signed his painting (in person) for me and the others also signed their paintings. All of the painters were from Amsterdam area. We still have most of our paintings. If you have found out any more information, I would appreciate hearing from you via email......Thanks, Lester P.S. The men were around 35 to 40 years of age.

December 2nd, 2010, 08:02 AM

Hello, In 1981 I too purchased a painting by H. Tirolf at an artshop in Hilversum (The Netherlands). It shows a forest view with lake and rowing boat (very similar to the one painted by the old Tirolf which was sold for $130,000). However this one must be painted by the later Tirolf as the canvas is attached on the frame with staples. The size 60x90 cm must have been popular. The painting reminds us of the forested area east of Amsterdam called "'t Gooi".

Robert S · December 2nd, 2010, 08:10 AM

Hello, In 1981 I too purchased a painting by H. Tirolf at an artshop in Hilversum (The Netherlands). It shows a forest view with lake and rowing boat (very similar to the one painted by the old Tirolf which was sold for $130,000). However this one must be painted by the later Tirolf as the canvas is attached on the frame with staples. The size 60x90 cm must have been popular. The painting reminds us of the forested area east of Amsterdam called "'t Gooi".

joopa1 · January 31st, 2011, 12:15 PM

I have also a large landscape painting by H Tirolf, i bought it in the seventies.

kind regards

Joop

February 3rd, 2011, 04:40 PM

i also have a large signed oil painted landscape with original frame inherited from family and ihe heard from a friend that sais is was a part was a main set of 3 landscapes

April 5th, 2011, 11:48 AM

Lester/Dev,
I have googled into your conversation as I am also trying to research one of the aforementioned Dutch artists. I was a young kid in Wiesbaden, Germany(1969-1974), when my parents purchased art from a middle-aged artist (then). She signed her pieces M. Ryke or M. Rijke as I have seen it spelled both ways on several paintings. Apparently, she belonged to an art collective out of Amsterdam and represented a number of artist at that time by selling to service members at the military living quarters. My parent's collection includes others by the names of P.C. Steenhouwer, B. Cremer, J. or T. Andre, De Koning, De Leer, C. Vos and Mulder.
I have found Steenhouwer to have died in 1972 and succeeded to a certain degree as an acclaimed artist. Would you know about any of the others?
...DB

May 8th, 2011, 05:20 PM

I also have a little B. Cremer and a De Leer painting that I inherited from military people who purchased them in around 1969. The B. Cremer is of a scene with a church with a blue roof and 2 figures on a path. The De Leer is a landscape with trees and a rushing stream of water are my favorites. I enjoy them. I wish to be able to insure them in case of fire and to eventually pass them down to my three children. Are these just quick paintings made for the tourist trade?

November 1st, 2011, 08:24 PM

My H.TiRolf has a capital R in the name I noticed all the rest are small r's and it too is a forest scene with a fence along the lake and an empty row boat beautiful fall scene aperantly... Anyony one know why it would have capital R-- The dad maybe??? Yess please!!--It is 20x24inches canvas. Any info will be apreciated. THANKS!!! will check back soon for any updates.

November 25th, 2011, 04:08 PM

Wondering if you ever learned anything more about m. Rijke as I believe I have one of her paintings: that of a windmill at sunset (does that sound right?) Been trying to learn something about it for awhile now.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lester/Dev,
I have googled into your conversation as I am also trying to research one of the aforementioned Dutch artists. I was a young kid in Wiesbaden, Germany(1969-1974), when my parents purchased art from a middle-aged artist (then). She signed her pieces M. Ryke or M. Rijke as I have seen it spelled both ways on several paintings. Apparently, she belonged to an art collective out of Amsterdam and represented a number of artist at that time by selling to service members at the military living quarters. My parent's collection includes others by the names of P.C. Steenhouwer, B. Cremer, J. or T. Andre, De Koning, De Leer, C. Vos and Mulder.
I have found Steenhouwer to have died in 1972 and succeeded to a certain degree as an acclaimed artist. Would you know about any of the others?
...DB

January 7th, 2012, 05:32 PM

I have a large painting by H. Tirolf that my 85 year old mother-in-law had. I'ts a stream in the woods . The frame is gold and very ornate. Amy info on where I ight sell it would be appreciated
Joe Phillips
rodgunbow@msn.com
Port Orange, Fl

March 17th, 2012, 08:16 AM

About 4 yrs ago a H Tirolf painting was given to me. Just liked the painting because of the scenery. Shortly thereafter someone visited and told me it was worth over $100,000. However do not have any idea how to go about getting it authenicated and a value on it. It does not have staples or made in mexico on the back. Signature fits the description given here (signed on the left lower corner). There is one thing that in NOT in my painting that is being referenced here and that is a row boat. My picture does not have a boat at all. Can someone here comment on this and give me some additional thoughts and information. I have considered selling it since I am down sizing my home but don't want to sell without knowing more. Someone please help me

April 12th, 2012, 01:05 PM

Cool story about growing up in Wiesbaden, Germany! This personal account is all I can find on this artist, if it is the same one I'm looking for info about. Thanks!

I just picked up a painting signed "Ryke" from an elderly military man who did not want it anymore. It is a foggy street scene with horse, buggy, very indistinct figures through the haze. Nice if you're into dismal and very well framed.

Another note...there are two dots above the "y" in the signature. Is that how she signed her name?

November 2nd, 2010, 02:52 PM	#23
Lester L Posts: n/a	Regarding H. Tirolf Paintings There is/was a real person named Tirolf who, along with two other artists, that were from the Netherlands, who were having painting parties in the homes of Americans in the Brussels in the early 1970s. We had one of their parties at our home in 1972 and purchased some paintings from them. Tirolf personally autographed his painting for me and we still have it. It is beautiful. I just today visited my doctor and hanging on the wall in the foyer of his office was a painting that I immediately recognized as having been done by the Tirolf that was in our home, and the signature was the same. All three artists were Dutch painters. The painting that the doctor had was valued for more than $6400.00 on Google. I have no idea as to what the one we have is valued at.

December 2nd, 2010, 08:02 AM	#25
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Tirolf painting Hello, In 1981 I too purchased a painting by H. Tirolf at an artshop in Hilversum (The Netherlands). It shows a forest view with lake and rowing boat (very similar to the one painted by the old Tirolf which was sold for $130,000). However this one must be painted by the later Tirolf as the canvas is attached on the frame with staples. The size 60x90 cm must have been popular. The painting reminds us of the forested area east of Amsterdam called "'t Gooi".

December 2nd, 2010, 08:10 AM	#26
Robert S Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1	Tirolf painting Hello, In 1981 I too purchased a painting by H. Tirolf at an artshop in Hilversum (The Netherlands). It shows a forest view with lake and rowing boat (very similar to the one painted by the old Tirolf which was sold for $130,000). However this one must be painted by the later Tirolf as the canvas is attached on the frame with staples. The size 60x90 cm must have been popular. The painting reminds us of the forested area east of Amsterdam called "'t Gooi".

January 31st, 2011, 12:15 PM	#27
joopa1 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1	painting by H Tirolf I have also a large landscape painting by H Tirolf, i bought it in the seventies. kind regards Joop

April 5th, 2011, 11:48 AM	#29
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Dutch Artist/Ryke Lester/Dev, I have googled into your conversation as I am also trying to research one of the aforementioned Dutch artists. I was a young kid in Wiesbaden, Germany(1969-1974), when my parents purchased art from a middle-aged artist (then). She signed her pieces M. Ryke or M. Rijke as I have seen it spelled both ways on several paintings. Apparently, she belonged to an art collective out of Amsterdam and represented a number of artist at that time by selling to service members at the military living quarters. My parent's collection includes others by the names of P.C. Steenhouwer, B. Cremer, J. or T. Andre, De Koning, De Leer, C. Vos and Mulder. I have found Steenhouwer to have died in 1972 and succeeded to a certain degree as an acclaimed artist. Would you know about any of the others? ...DB

February 3rd, 2011, 04:40 PM	#28
Unregistered Posts: n/a	i also have a large signed oil painted landscape with original frame inherited from family and ihe heard from a friend that sais is was a part was a main set of 3 landscapes

May 8th, 2011, 05:20 PM	#30
Music room Posts: n/a	De Leer and B. Cremer I also have a little B. Cremer and a De Leer painting that I inherited from military people who purchased them in around 1969. The B. Cremer is of a scene with a church with a blue roof and 2 figures on a path. The De Leer is a landscape with trees and a rushing stream of water are my favorites. I enjoy them. I wish to be able to insure them in case of fire and to eventually pass them down to my three children. Are these just quick paintings made for the tourist trade?

November 1st, 2011, 08:24 PM	#31
cyndie Posts: n/a	Do Not Know!!! My H.TiRolf has a capital R in the name I noticed all the rest are small r's and it too is a forest scene with a fence along the lake and an empty row boat beautiful fall scene aperantly... Anyony one know why it would have capital R-- The dad maybe??? Yess please!!--It is 20x24inches canvas. Any info will be apreciated. THANKS!!! will check back soon for any updates.

January 7th, 2012, 05:32 PM	#33
rodgunbow Posts: n/a	I have a large painting by H. Tirolf that my 85 year old mother-in-law had. I'ts a stream in the woods . The frame is gold and very ornate. Amy info on where I ight sell it would be appreciated Joe Phillips rodgunbow@msn.com Port Orange, Fl

March 17th, 2012, 08:16 AM	#34
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Bernice About 4 yrs ago a H Tirolf painting was given to me. Just liked the painting because of the scenery. Shortly thereafter someone visited and told me it was worth over $100,000. However do not have any idea how to go about getting it authenicated and a value on it. It does not have staples or made in mexico on the back. Signature fits the description given here (signed on the left lower corner). There is one thing that in NOT in my painting that is being referenced here and that is a row boat. My picture does not have a boat at all. Can someone here comment on this and give me some additional thoughts and information. I have considered selling it since I am down sizing my home but don't want to sell without knowing more. Someone please help me

April 12th, 2012, 01:05 PM	#35
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Ryke Cool story about growing up in Wiesbaden, Germany! This personal account is all I can find on this artist, if it is the same one I'm looking for info about. Thanks! I just picked up a painting signed "Ryke" from an elderly military man who did not want it anymore. It is a foggy street scene with horse, buggy, very indistinct figures through the haze. Nice if you're into dismal and very well framed. Another note...there are two dots above the "y" in the signature. Is that how she signed her name?

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