Unsigned painting- please help identify

stabbs · March 23rd, 2010, 12:09 PM

My grandfather bought this painting in 1946 for my grandmother in a 2nd hand store on Webster Ave in the Bronx for $120. The print on the back is quite faded and reads: "Der Konill Iquialoe Galerie zu Dresdn". Thanks in advance for any information.

John · March 23rd, 2010, 06:58 PM

It's an exercise in "chiarioscuro" (exaggerated contrast between light and dark) which appears to be from the Baroque era. A few artists who worked in this style are Gerrit von Honthorst, Georges de La Tour and Joseph Wright of Derby.

Most likely it's a copy, but I don't recognize the original that it would be based on offhand.

saintmarc · March 24th, 2010, 02:26 AM

Copy after the "old woman with brazier" by Rubens. Staatliche kunstammlungen in Dresde
http://www.photo.rmn.fr/cf/htm/CSear...2C6NU0341Q 7W

stabbs · March 24th, 2010, 12:11 PM

My grandparents are going to be so excited to finally have some information of this painting! Thanks John & SaintMarc for the info.

John · March 27th, 2010, 10:53 AM

I never would have guessed that was Rubens. So humble and intimate compared to most of his work. Even his simple portraits usually have a kind of force or boldness to them that he doesn't aim for here.

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stabbs Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2	Unsigned painting- please help identify My grandfather bought this painting in 1946 for my grandmother in a 2nd hand store on Webster Ave in the Bronx for $120. The print on the back is quite faded and reads: "Der Konill Iquialoe Galerie zu Dresdn". Thanks in advance for any information.

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March 23rd, 2010, 06:58 PM	#2
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	It's an exercise in "chiarioscuro" (exaggerated contrast between light and dark) which appears to be from the Baroque era. A few artists who worked in this style are Gerrit von Honthorst, Georges de La Tour and Joseph Wright of Derby. Most likely it's a copy, but I don't recognize the original that it would be based on offhand.

March 24th, 2010, 02:26 AM	#3
saintmarc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 347	Copy after the "old woman with brazier" by Rubens. Staatliche kunstammlungen in Dresde http://www.photo.rmn.fr/cf/htm/CSear...2C6NU0341Q 7W

March 24th, 2010, 12:11 PM	#4
stabbs Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2	My grandparents are going to be so excited to finally have some information of this painting! Thanks John & SaintMarc for the info.

March 27th, 2010, 10:53 AM	#5
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	I never would have guessed that was Rubens. So humble and intimate compared to most of his work. Even his simple portraits usually have a kind of force or boldness to them that he doesn't aim for here.