Is this a print or painting do you think

tyblossom · August 4th, 2010, 09:15 AM

This by Eugene Delacroix and measures 20x16 inches. I was told it was a painting on either a fine canvas or paper attached to a more modern board. Also, that it's been cut down a little. I was also told that it has a little missing paint and it's dirty. I've looked everywhere online to find this and can't seem to find this. Does anyone have any thoughts on the possibility that it could be a real painting?

Hercules Brabazon · August 4th, 2010, 10:06 AM

"Horses Coming Out of the Sea" 1860. Original in the Philips Collection

http://www.scholarsresource.com/browse/work/2144604703

tyblossom · August 4th, 2010, 10:27 AM

Thank you so much. Is there a way to tell if something is a real painting by just photos online? I"m just curious.

Eirene · August 5th, 2010, 01:21 AM

Do you see brushstrokes? Not the uniform phoney kind. Perhaps a paper print on cardboard? A canvas print? The colours look off and the sky looks different to me.

lynnster2 · August 6th, 2010, 12:09 AM

Another quicky method a subject matter expert once showed me, if you veiw the picture through a magnifier, and you see pixels (like on a TV small identical squares) it is a copy.

Eirene · August 7th, 2010, 02:36 AM

I think tyblossom is trying to find out if this is a painted copy of the original, which is located in the Philips Collection as Hercules pointed out.

John · August 7th, 2010, 01:18 PM

I can't imagine there's any way to determine that online. Here's the original in the Phillips Collection - An authenticator would probably start with where the painting came from. If there's no documented history, then it would be hard to distinguish a version Delacroix had painted from a copy that anyone could have made at any time.

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tyblossom Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 47	Thank you Thank you so much. Is there a way to tell if something is a real painting by just photos online? I"m just curious.

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August 4th, 2010, 10:06 AM	#2
Hercules Brabazon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 118	"Horses Coming Out of the Sea" 1860. Original in the Philips Collection http://www.scholarsresource.com/browse/work/2144604703

August 5th, 2010, 01:21 AM	#4
Eirene Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 624	Do you see brushstrokes? Not the uniform phoney kind. Perhaps a paper print on cardboard? A canvas print? The colours look off and the sky looks different to me.

August 6th, 2010, 12:09 AM	#5
lynnster2 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2	Another quicky method a subject matter expert once showed me, if you veiw the picture through a magnifier, and you see pixels (like on a TV small identical squares) it is a copy.

August 7th, 2010, 02:36 AM	#6
Eirene Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 624	I think tyblossom is trying to find out if this is a painted copy of the original, which is located in the Philips Collection as Hercules pointed out.

August 7th, 2010, 01:18 PM	#7
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	I can't imagine there's any way to determine that online. Here's the original in the Phillips Collection - An authenticator would probably start with where the painting came from. If there's no documented history, then it would be hard to distinguish a version Delacroix had painted from a copy that anyone could have made at any time.