Unknown name and value? - Page 2

November 1st, 2008, 10:53 AM

In regards to the artist F Lefler, there was actually two brothers both artists and both initials the same, one was as you said Franz, I cant remember for sure but the other was Fritz. I have a very large litho portraying the 3 cherubic children called " The Serenade". It is dated from the late 1800's.
I watch antique roadshow and once saw an original oil painting and they appraised it in the 25-30,000.00 $ range! And it was sothebys that said it but when I tried to call and find out more info they said they could not come up with anything.So who knows. very confusing.... and I am surprised that so many are still around.

November 1st, 2008, 02:59 PM

6 Years ago my boss gave me a nice painting off kees van dongen because he didn't like it.a client of him ho has a galleryh off famouse paintings gave it to him as a present but he didn't like it so he gave it to me as a present. But now i dont now how mutch it cost. its a painting off la dauphin in france can you help me

November 23rd, 2008, 08:03 AM

I have the same F. Lefler "print" of the 2 boys and 1 girl ( one with flute, other with mandolin, girl with fan). I bought it at a yardsale 15 years ago and have always wondered the value of it. Anyone have any idea?

Arty One · December 4th, 2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have the same F. Lefler "print" of the 2 boys and 1 girl ( one with flute, other with mandolin, girl with fan). I bought it at a yardsale 15 years ago and have always wondered the value of it. Anyone have any idea?

If you have a picture, it would help. Is it the "Marriage Proposal?" art

January 31st, 2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brusstar

The name of it is The marriage dream and it was painted in 1898. I have the oil painting.

I have a Sepia by F. Lefler it has imprinted, burned on the back of it with his signature (?), The Wedding Dream. Cherubs are from the bottom of lounge chair up to her hand may be placing a ring on her finger.
What is very neat is the frame is wood and has been burn into with cherubs all around and blends very well into the picture. The name on the frame has the name of D. Parkerson, Chicago burnt into the front in the bottom corner.

u4gotmynamejm@yahoo.com · February 17th, 2009, 10:19 PM

hey can anyone help, i recently bought 2 old pictures at a estate sale, someone tore the paper off the back of them and probally thought they were useless, well they both had a really thin piece of board on the back well i took the board off and behind the board was 2 old newspapers and 2 franz lefler prints signed by franz lefler and the newspapers are dated 1889 can anyone help to find out about the newspapers as a room at a motel for one night was 10 cents in the paper and its the boston herald wow what a rush to find these old prints and papers help please

January 2nd, 2010, 08:49 PM

Yes I Just Bought A F. Lafler Painting Of The Serenade. Its Old And 3 Kids Two Boys And A Girl. The Boys Are Playing A Flute And A Manuel . The Girl Is In A White Dress With A Fan. Can You Tell Me About How Much It Is Worth

January 2nd, 2010, 08:56 PM

Yes I Just Bought A F. Lafler Painting Of The Serenade. Its Old And 3 Kids Two Boys And A Girl. The Boys Are Playing A Flute And A Manuel . The Girl Is In A White Dress With A Fan. Can You Tell Me About How Much It Is Worth

January 2nd, 2010, 08:58 PM

Yes I Just Bought A F. Lafler Painting Of The Serenade. Its Old And Has 3 Kids Two Boys And A Girl. The Boys Are Playing A Flute And A Manuel . The Girl Is In A White Dress With A Fan. Can You Tell Me About How Much It Is Worth

Clovelles · February 23rd, 2010, 07:22 PM

I find it very interesting that these prints all seem to have the same story. My grandparents bought their house in Florence Township, Ohio, in 1911, and the picture was hanging in the house at that time, so I don't know how it happened to get to Ohio. If anyone has information about it's value or origin, please email me directly chris.sayler@oberlin.edu. Thank you!

Ravenhill · February 26th, 2010, 04:36 AM

I don't know that I can add much, but auction records for the last 6 years indicate that oils would go for $1000-$4000, while prints (lithographs, chromolithographs) are in the $30 range. Condition is a big factor, and so is sentiment.
As for the Kees Van Dongen, if it is for real, that could be anywhere from $800 to $250,000. Take it to a museum or art school to have someone really look at it.

-Dallas

Dolly · July 7th, 2010, 02:56 PM

And I've got a heliograph of Franz Lefler work made by J.Blechinger. It is one of the Pinx pictures. But I don't know the name of the pict. exactly. The frame is old and beautiful. on the back side it is said 'Max Tintner. Atelier fur delportraits u. kunstmalerei, fabriks - niderlage von Rahmen, Spiegeln u. Vergolderwaaren' There is also a number there as it was a museum exhibit. I would appreciate a lot if someone will inform me about the name of the picture and probable value of the heliograph. Is heliograph a rare thing or not? What do you think? Thank you!
the link to observe the print

pacificstar · October 15th, 2010, 08:47 AM

Can anyone help me...........I have 2 paintings one is of a Monestary in Croatia that my grandmother had commisioned by who she called Mrs Lefler, the piece is signed L.V. Lefler '38 and the other painting is a still life of roses it is signed Lefler, nothing else. Thank you in advance for any information. My grandparents came to America from Austria Hungary in 1906 to San Franciso, CA and married in 1919 and settled in San Pedro, CA part of Los Angeles.

October 30th, 2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have an OLD print or painting I am not sure it has a lady playing a mandolin and a little brown haired boy and blonde haired girl and a cherub in the tree listening. At the bottom it says painted by Lefler and is titled A DUET. I need to know how much this is worth and if any one has seen one like this before. Thanks!

I have the same one that you do. I know it's from the late 1800s . I'm also trying to find out it's worh.have you found out anything yet?

November 23rd, 2010, 03:51 PM

I, too, have the same print. It hung in my grandparents house 65 years ago, that I remember, and I found it in my mother's basement, so asked if I could have it, and her response was almost the same as your grandmother's - "What, that! Sure take it." It does have a partial date written on the back "189_", and says "To ---------Kitchen" which was my grandparent's surname. I am interested in any information you may have discovered.

January 22nd, 2011, 05:07 PM

A large beautiful landscape signed by F. Lefler. Has the same quality as the cherub pictures. This is NOT a print. It is an oil pastel landscape. The frame is very old, with bubbles in the glass. Any thoughts on this work of art is appreciated.

/Users/deesimon/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Masters/2009/F. Lefler/IMGP0390.JPG

Onehope · January 3rd, 2012, 09:03 PM

I have the same F. Lefler "print" of the 2 boys and 1 girl ( one with flute, other with mandolin, girl with fan). I bought it at Flea Market about 25 years ago in the South New Jeresey/Philadelphia (USA) area.

I was intrigued by the picture and the paper print is fragile, some torn in corners and some water damage in a very old gold frame (16X30). The back has a old thin piece of wood behind the picture.

I must say my interest was in the print and together with the "oldness" from the paper and frame..it really intrigued me as to who had owned it and how it was left at a Flea Market!

Still today ..I find the children and colors and the "angelic like" presence from this lithograph very "catching".

Does anyone know a value/if any for these?

At some point I would like to find this a good home and not have it end up in a Flea Market.

Also, I would like to further protect the print/lithograph from further movement and damage by placing some on top of it in the fram...any ideas as to what I can do?

Thanks.

Onehope · January 15th, 2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Clovelles

I find it very interesting that these prints all seem to have the same story. My grandparents bought their house in Florence Township, Ohio, in 1911, and the picture was hanging in the house at that time, so I don't know how it happened to get to Ohio. If anyone has information about it's value or origin, please email me directly chris.sayler@oberlin.edu. Thank you!

Hi, Were you able to learn anything more about the value of these prints? I posted on Jan 7th, but did not receive any replies. Tx Onehope

November 1st, 2008, 10:53 AM	#21
Unregistered Posts: n/a	LES Staendchen by F Lefler In regards to the artist F Lefler, there was actually two brothers both artists and both initials the same, one was as you said Franz, I cant remember for sure but the other was Fritz. I have a very large litho portraying the 3 cherubic children called " The Serenade". It is dated from the late 1800's. I watch antique roadshow and once saw an original oil painting and they appraised it in the 25-30,000.00 $ range! And it was sothebys that said it but when I tried to call and find out more info they said they could not come up with anything.So who knows. very confusing.... and I am surprised that so many are still around.

November 1st, 2008, 02:59 PM	#22
kamhaouch Posts: n/a	kees van dongen 6 Years ago my boss gave me a nice painting off kees van dongen because he didn't like it.a client of him ho has a galleryh off famouse paintings gave it to him as a present but he didn't like it so he gave it to me as a present. But now i dont now how mutch it cost. its a painting off la dauphin in france can you help me

February 17th, 2009, 10:19 PM	#26
u4gotmynamejm@yahoo.com Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1	Finders Keepers hey can anyone help, i recently bought 2 old pictures at a estate sale, someone tore the paper off the back of them and probally thought they were useless, well they both had a really thin piece of board on the back well i took the board off and behind the board was 2 old newspapers and 2 franz lefler prints signed by franz lefler and the newspapers are dated 1889 can anyone help to find out about the newspapers as a room at a motel for one night was 10 cents in the paper and its the boston herald wow what a rush to find these old prints and papers help please

October 15th, 2010, 08:47 AM	#33
pacificstar Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1	L.V. Lefler Can anyone help me...........I have 2 paintings one is of a Monestary in Croatia that my grandmother had commisioned by who she called Mrs Lefler, the piece is signed L.V. Lefler '38 and the other painting is a still life of roses it is signed Lefler, nothing else. Thank you in advance for any information. My grandparents came to America from Austria Hungary in 1906 to San Franciso, CA and married in 1919 and settled in San Pedro, CA part of Los Angeles.

November 23rd, 2010, 03:51 PM	#35
Unregistered Posts: n/a	F. Lefler print I, too, have the same print. It hung in my grandparents house 65 years ago, that I remember, and I found it in my mother's basement, so asked if I could have it, and her response was almost the same as your grandmother's - "What, that! Sure take it." It does have a partial date written on the back "189_", and says "To ---------Kitchen" which was my grandparent's surname. I am interested in any information you may have discovered.

November 23rd, 2008, 08:03 AM	#23
Unregistered Posts: n/a	I have the same F. Lefler "print" of the 2 boys and 1 girl ( one with flute, other with mandolin, girl with fan). I bought it at a yardsale 15 years ago and have always wondered the value of it. Anyone have any idea?

January 2nd, 2010, 08:49 PM	#27
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Yes I Just Bought A F. Lafler Painting Of The Serenade. Its Old And 3 Kids Two Boys And A Girl. The Boys Are Playing A Flute And A Manuel . The Girl Is In A White Dress With A Fan. Can You Tell Me About How Much It Is Worth

January 2nd, 2010, 08:56 PM	#28
jan.shemwell@yahoo.com Posts: n/a	Yes I Just Bought A F. Lafler Painting Of The Serenade. Its Old And 3 Kids Two Boys And A Girl. The Boys Are Playing A Flute And A Manuel . The Girl Is In A White Dress With A Fan. Can You Tell Me About How Much It Is Worth

January 2nd, 2010, 08:58 PM	#29
jan.shemwell@yahoo.com Posts: n/a	Yes I Just Bought A F. Lafler Painting Of The Serenade. Its Old And Has 3 Kids Two Boys And A Girl. The Boys Are Playing A Flute And A Manuel . The Girl Is In A White Dress With A Fan. Can You Tell Me About How Much It Is Worth

February 23rd, 2010, 07:22 PM	#30
Clovelles Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2	I find it very interesting that these prints all seem to have the same story. My grandparents bought their house in Florence Township, Ohio, in 1911, and the picture was hanging in the house at that time, so I don't know how it happened to get to Ohio. If anyone has information about it's value or origin, please email me directly chris.sayler@oberlin.edu. Thank you!

February 26th, 2010, 04:36 AM	#31
Ravenhill Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9	I don't know that I can add much, but auction records for the last 6 years indicate that oils would go for $1000-$4000, while prints (lithographs, chromolithographs) are in the $30 range. Condition is a big factor, and so is sentiment. As for the Kees Van Dongen, if it is for real, that could be anywhere from $800 to $250,000. Take it to a museum or art school to have someone really look at it. -Dallas

July 7th, 2010, 02:56 PM	#32
Dolly Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1	And I've got a heliograph of Franz Lefler work made by J.Blechinger. It is one of the Pinx pictures. But I don't know the name of the pict. exactly. The frame is old and beautiful. on the back side it is said 'Max Tintner. Atelier fur delportraits u. kunstmalerei, fabriks - niderlage von Rahmen, Spiegeln u. Vergolderwaaren' There is also a number there as it was a museum exhibit. I would appreciate a lot if someone will inform me about the name of the picture and probable value of the heliograph. Is heliograph a rare thing or not? What do you think? Thank you! the link to observe the print

January 22nd, 2011, 05:07 PM	#36
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Original Pastel "Dream Of Spring", by F. Lefler A large beautiful landscape signed by F. Lefler. Has the same quality as the cherub pictures. This is NOT a print. It is an oil pastel landscape. The frame is very old, with bubbles in the glass. Any thoughts on this work of art is appreciated. /Users/deesimon/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Masters/2009/F. Lefler/IMGP0390.JPG

January 3rd, 2012, 09:03 PM	#37
Onehope Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2	F. Lefler print/lithograph I have the same F. Lefler "print" of the 2 boys and 1 girl ( one with flute, other with mandolin, girl with fan). I bought it at Flea Market about 25 years ago in the South New Jeresey/Philadelphia (USA) area. I was intrigued by the picture and the paper print is fragile, some torn in corners and some water damage in a very old gold frame (16X30). The back has a old thin piece of wood behind the picture. I must say my interest was in the print and together with the "oldness" from the paper and frame..it really intrigued me as to who had owned it and how it was left at a Flea Market! Still today ..I find the children and colors and the "angelic like" presence from this lithograph very "catching". Does anyone know a value/if any for these? At some point I would like to find this a good home and not have it end up in a Flea Market. Also, I would like to further protect the print/lithograph from further movement and damage by placing some on top of it in the fram...any ideas as to what I can do? Thanks.

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