Fascinating Unknown Painting-Hot Air Balloon

aficionado2312 · April 9th, 2011, 08:35 AM

I have really enjoyed these two paintings and have done much research to see if I can figure out what is going on, but to no avail. I thought they would be quite easy to identify, as they have numerous specific subject matter, but still I have found nothing. Thank you for sharing in this adventure with me! Any info you can provide would be extremely grateful and appreciated.

Things I have observed: Although I am not sure, I believe these are painted on the backside of the glass (strange, so I am not sure) and is pressed against wood on the back. The wood is held in place by nails at an angle around the edge of the frame (like many other paintings I have in nice frames). There is no observable artist signature, but figured the style is so unique, it must be attributed to someone or something. The subject matter is very interesting...I originally thought the subject matter was from a story, but can not find a story that represents this. In the second picture there are 2 flags with words/language I can not identify. "W iconjugi Arban" and "W Chitara". People are also holding some interesting items.

I love a good mystery! Thanks for all your help!

Aficionado2312

April 14th, 2011, 03:44 PM

Does anyone recognize anything or any element in this painting that might be used for further research to figure out what this is or identify style?

Adriana

John · April 14th, 2011, 06:15 PM

"Conjugi" = "spouse" in Latin. That may be of some small help.

thatcomedian · April 14th, 2011, 07:23 PM

ARBAN, Francois FRANCE (1815-1849) K (GB)
See APPENDIX-B/C/K/T/CR. Sport balloonist.
FIRST to cross European Alps by balloon.
b: 1815 Lyon, France; d: 7 Oct.1849, Mediterranean Sea.
f: First B-Flight 24 May 1832; Made 16 ascents in his lifetime; Made 14 recorded flights in Italy 1845-49. ***Epic flight 2 Sep.1849 from Marseilles (France). Flight crossed the Alps in 8 hours, landing at Stubini (near Turin). ***Epic flight 7 Oct. 1849, Barcelona (Spain), disappeared over Mediterranean Sea.

aficionado2312 · April 14th, 2011, 11:30 PM

Wonderful! That gives me a little more to go on. A true mystery...any other thoughts are most welcome. I will post if I learn anything else new.

aficionado2312 · April 15th, 2011, 12:36 PM

"ASCENSIONE COMPIUTA DALL' ARBAN"

OK...I thought I would add some interesting information I found. But I am still wondering about the story behind the painting. The above, in capitals, is the title of an engraving that is "strikingly" similar to the painting.

Any thoughts?

April 30th, 2011, 09:30 AM

If the painting is painted on the back of the glass, like you believe...would this not be similar to the way the engraver would have made the plates for the title you posted above, "ASCENSIONE COMPIUTA DALL' ARBAN".

Could the above painting have been a draft for the engravings, or painted after from the engraving? I suppose the glass, placed over the original metal engraving (which would be made backwards or inverse/mirror image) would produce a proper image such as this when viewed through the glass, as your image appears to be, as your painting is on the inside of the glass, yet the words/lettering in the print are proper.

Could these have been made by the original artist who made the plates for ASCENSIONE COMPIUTA DALL' ARBAN?

-Felix

November 28th, 2011, 05:12 PM

That 'balloon' motif is by the same artist, V. Cioni. I have one wiht the same balloon, different scene. Trying to find a buyer.

January 28th, 2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by aficionado2312

I have really enjoyed these two paintings and have done much research to see if I can figure out what is going on, but to no avail. I thought they would be quite easy to identify, as they have numerous specific subject matter, but still I have found nothing. Thank you for sharing in this adventure with me! Any info you can provide would be extremely grateful and appreciated.

Things I have observed: Although I am not sure, I believe these are painted on the backside of the glass (strange, so I am not sure) and is pressed against wood on the back. The wood is held in place by nails at an angle around the edge of the frame (like many other paintings I have in nice frames). There is no observable artist signature, but figured the style is so unique, it must be attributed to someone or something. The subject matter is very interesting...I originally thought the subject matter was from a story, but can not find a story that represents this. In the second picture there are 2 flags with words/language I can not identify. "W iconjugi Arban" and "W Chitara". People are also holding some interesting items.

I love a good mystery! Thanks for all your help!

Aficionado2312

Hi there... i have the same paintings...to a T! I am also trying to find out some info about the artist...any ideas what the value of these paintings are?

April 18th, 2012, 10:19 PM

Did anyone come across the approximate date of these paintings? That is interesting...I would not have expected this painting to have been "duplicated."

April 24th, 2012, 10:15 PM

Curious as well, does your painting have the same frame as in the photos posted?

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April 14th, 2011, 03:44 PM	#2
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Does anyone recognize anything or any element in this painting that might be used for further research to figure out what this is or identify style? Adriana

April 14th, 2011, 06:15 PM	#3
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	"Conjugi" = "spouse" in Latin. That may be of some small help.

April 14th, 2011, 07:23 PM	#4
thatcomedian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Pedro, CA Posts: 210	ARBAN, Francois FRANCE (1815-1849) K (GB) See APPENDIX-B/C/K/T/CR. Sport balloonist. FIRST to cross European Alps by balloon. b: 1815 Lyon, France; d: 7 Oct.1849, Mediterranean Sea. f: First B-Flight 24 May 1832; Made 16 ascents in his lifetime; Made 14 recorded flights in Italy 1845-49. *Epic flight 2 Sep.1849 from Marseilles (France). Flight crossed the Alps in 8 hours, landing at Stubini (near Turin). *Epic flight 7 Oct. 1849, Barcelona (Spain), disappeared over Mediterranean Sea.

April 14th, 2011, 11:30 PM	#5
aficionado2312 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	Wonderful! That gives me a little more to go on. A true mystery...any other thoughts are most welcome. I will post if I learn anything else new.

April 15th, 2011, 12:36 PM	#6
aficionado2312 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	"ASCENSIONE COMPIUTA DALL' ARBAN" OK...I thought I would add some interesting information I found. But I am still wondering about the story behind the painting. The above, in capitals, is the title of an engraving that is "strikingly" similar to the painting. Any thoughts?

April 30th, 2011, 09:30 AM	#7
Unregistered Posts: n/a	If the painting is painted on the back of the glass, like you believe...would this not be similar to the way the engraver would have made the plates for the title you posted above, "ASCENSIONE COMPIUTA DALL' ARBAN". Could the above painting have been a draft for the engravings, or painted after from the engraving? I suppose the glass, placed over the original metal engraving (which would be made backwards or inverse/mirror image) would produce a proper image such as this when viewed through the glass, as your image appears to be, as your painting is on the inside of the glass, yet the words/lettering in the print are proper. Could these have been made by the original artist who made the plates for ASCENSIONE COMPIUTA DALL' ARBAN? -Felix

November 28th, 2011, 05:12 PM	#8
Unregistered Posts: n/a	That 'balloon' motif is by the same artist, V. Cioni. I have one wiht the same balloon, different scene. Trying to find a buyer.

April 18th, 2012, 10:19 PM	#10
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Did anyone come across the approximate date of these paintings? That is interesting...I would not have expected this painting to have been "duplicated."

April 24th, 2012, 10:15 PM	#11
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Curious as well, does your painting have the same frame as in the photos posted?