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YANOCK · 07:39 PM

I have searched and searched and can not find any info. So I am hoping someone here would be able to help me. My husbands grandmother was born and raised in Germany back in the early 1900's. She married an American soldier who was stationed in Germany (they were married and lived in germany for a year or 2) until he moved her to the US. She brought this drawing with her, and kept it very well hidden, as we found it just a few years ago, hidden in a secret frame behind her wedding photo. She brought very few items from Germany with her, so we are very interested in why she hid and brought this item here. She passed away many years ago, so we cant ask her. If anyone has any idea to who the portrait is of, or who the artist is, or even what the writing says, would be greatly appreciated. All i have found so far is it looks similar to a drawing of a Prussian Hassar (here is a link to that pic :
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9KTiNIi35B...Deathshead.jpg )

Please let me know if you have any ideas. Thanks so much! -Lindsay

John · May 17th, 2011, 10:31 AM

That certainly has the makings of an interesting story. I couldn't quite make out any of the writing. Maybe if you provided a close-up photo of the writing alone someone with some German would be able to help you.

YANOCK · May 17th, 2011, 07:40 PM

Thanks, I have included some close ups of the writing. If anyone has any ideas please let me know! Thanks again! -Lindsay

Linechaser · May 19th, 2011, 09:31 AM

There are two dates on the drawing. The first, under the artist's signature, is "27.10.01"--in other words, October 27, 1901.

The writing at the bottom edge is much later. It is dated 27 December 1946 and indicates <some>kenhof, Gablingen. Gablingen is a municipality in the district of Augsburg in Bavaria in Germany. It has been the site of a military facility since before WWI. The US Army occupied the base in 1945, initially as an airbase, but it was used as regular troop barracks after July 1946. I would say that indicates where and when the drawing was purchased.

John · May 20th, 2011, 01:09 AM

That makes sense. But I wonder why there is a monogram with an R at the top left (possibly FR?), when I don't see any R in what is presumably the signature at the lower right.

Hercules Brabazon · May 20th, 2011, 03:02 AM

I think the full pencil text reads

Stettenhofen, am 27.xii.1946
Gablingen

( Stettenhofen is a town a couple of km from Gablingen )

The name in the bottom right looks like " Julius Konrad". I don't think that's the artists name - it looks like it was written in 1946.

Luca · May 20th, 2011, 06:14 AM

Attached is a drawing by Bela Konrad, an Austrian Painter, 1869 Sárvár – 1933 Graz. (Look at the nose and the beard)
Only a thought:
Julius Konrad, who wrote in the year 1946 the text under the drawing, is (was) the son of Bela Konrad.
About Bela Konrad I read in “Die Kunst”, issue spring 1904, that he was famous for his “well done quick studies”.
He often was in Germany and in Hungary.
Luca

May 17th, 2011, 07:40 PM	#3
YANOCK Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2	New Pics Added Thanks, I have included some close ups of the writing. If anyone has any ideas please let me know! Thanks again! -Lindsay

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May 17th, 2011, 10:31 AM	#2
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	That certainly has the makings of an interesting story. I couldn't quite make out any of the writing. Maybe if you provided a close-up photo of the writing alone someone with some German would be able to help you.

May 19th, 2011, 09:31 AM	#4
Linechaser Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Posts: 2	There are two dates on the drawing. The first, under the artist's signature, is "27.10.01"--in other words, October 27, 1901. The writing at the bottom edge is much later. It is dated 27 December 1946 and indicates <some>kenhof, Gablingen. Gablingen is a municipality in the district of Augsburg in Bavaria in Germany. It has been the site of a military facility since before WWI. The US Army occupied the base in 1945, initially as an airbase, but it was used as regular troop barracks after July 1946. I would say that indicates where and when the drawing was purchased.

May 20th, 2011, 01:09 AM	#5
John John Malyon, host Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,401	That makes sense. But I wonder why there is a monogram with an R at the top left (possibly FR?), when I don't see any R in what is presumably the signature at the lower right.

May 20th, 2011, 03:02 AM	#6
Hercules Brabazon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 118	I think the full pencil text reads Stettenhofen, am 27.xii.1946 Gablingen ( Stettenhofen is a town a couple of km from Gablingen ) The name in the bottom right looks like " Julius Konrad". I don't think that's the artists name - it looks like it was written in 1946.